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Sherri
Make sure you pick him up a lot turn him on his back in a submissive position (great for bellly rubs) Touch his feet roll him on his side..
show him that you are alpha and would never hurt him it is ok for you to touch him all over.

Socialize him... as much as possible.. with other dogs extra.

Sadie will help with showing him how to grow up nice.
Jodie
Thanks! I deleted it because I wasn't sure if I should put it here or not, with
him not being from SCD.

You're right about Sadie showing him. When he gives me a hard time or growls
at me, Sadie comes running as soon as she hears. It's so funny because she moves him away from me and takes over. And when she hears me
catching him going potty on the floor, she jumps up and goes to the backdoor.
She is so dang SMART!!! I'm so very partial to Sadie. I guess, you could say
Sadie is my dog and the puppy is Dan & the boys dog. (even though, I'm the
one doing the training for him). But, anyway...this little guy is going to be a lot
of work. Never have I seen a puppy with an attitude like this. Lol...Right now,
I'm wishing I would have gone with my original plan to get a second Dobe in
the spring. But, I'm sure he'll grow up to be a good dog.

Thanks again! Much appreciated...

Jodie
Sherri
This board is open to all dogs, if we can help.. Please feel free to post about anything.. If he growls and puppy bites grab his muzzle squeeze firmly and in a firm voice NOOOOOOO remember 75% of obedience is voice control
Jodie
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ChristineNHarley
Hey Jodie,
I really didn't know how to reply to your last post (now deleted?) cauz I'm no expert.. But the first thing they taught us in obedience class was to show him you're alpha. Put the dog in a down position and then roll him over on his back. Straddle him, but don't sit on him and hold him there for 30 sec. to a min. I am 80-90 lbs and did this with Harley who weighed about 70 lbs at the time, he struggled at first, but now I can do it any time I like and he lays there... Also!! If you have a bad feeling about the dog's behavior, I would seriously re-think the decision to keep him. Your children are most important here and the puppy may just need a home where he's an only dog... (???) Again, I'm not an expert... Do what you think is best for your family and you won't go wrong..
telomere
QUOTE (Sherri @ Nov 14 2004, 04:02 PM)
If he growls and puppy bites  grab his muzzle squeeze firmly and in a firm voice NOOOOOOO  remember 75% of obedience is voice control

For play-biting, I like to simply say "ow!", pull my hand away, and not play with the dog for 5-10 seconds, then slowly play with it again.

The dog's main objective is to play. They quickly catch on that if they bite you, the play goes away - the only way to keep non-interrupted play is to NOT bite.

Another aspect of that is that if the dog ever play-bites anyone else, they're first reaction is usually to say "OW!" and pull away - and if that's what you've taught the dog ends up in no play, then his immediate reaction will be to STOP biting. Pure beauty. smile.gif

My 11-month old dog, who will always be a puppy at heart, is VERY oral - he has always got to be doing something with his mouth. But he learned that way not to bite on people, and in the odd case that he does, if you say "ow!", he stops, sits down, leans forward, and starts licking your face, as if to say "I'm sorry, I didn't mean to!"

For growling, again - look at the potential reward that the dog can get from growling. He may want to play, he may want to chase something away, whatever - if the reward NEVER happens, he'll eventually realize that, and stop. Just remember, though, once he realizes that his growling isn't working any more, he'll growl MORE at first - but don't get frustrated, that's good! It means that he's starting to realize that his behavior isn't producing any benefit or reward. Just keep it up, and before long, he'll start giving up on the growling.

Dogs, like humans, are astoundingly good at realizing what behaviors get them the reward or benefit that they want - and they're astoundingly quick to stop behaviors once they've internalized the fact that it won't result in any benefit whatsoever. You just have to help them realize that there's no benefit.

steve
Jodie
Hi, Steve...

This was more than play growling, biting...

He's a three to four month old Rott pup. He has quite an attitude. When
we first brought him home, every time we would correct him, try to put
him outside or in his crate, we'd go to pick him up or lead him by the
collar and he would literally attack our hand/arm. For about two weeks,
no matter what we tried, he would not stop doing this. He's begun to get
better. He still has a slip up once in a while, but it's no where near what
it was. A few weeks ago, I was doubting whether we should keep him
because with an attitude like that coming from such a young pup, I was
concerned with him doing something like that when he gets older and
bigger -- especially with having children in the home. He has gotten better,
though.

Jodie
telomere

Remember that you have psychology on your side. If the pup attacks your arm, he must expect *some* reward out of it. Whether his "reward" is play, working out frustration, trying to get you to stop correcting him, or whatever, he is expecting something out of it.

If you can identify what it is that he wants, and control the situation so that he NEVER gets what he wants, he will stop doing it. As always, it'll get worse before it gets better ("Hey! That's not working any more. I better try harder."), but that just means that it's clicking that they're not getting what they want.

Without seeing the pup, I certainly can't know as well as you do what's going on - so, as always, love your dog, use your head, (it sounds like you are!) and I'm sure that things will work out fine.

steve
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